Akinola, Repudiate Anti-Gay Violence

July 29, 2008

UK Grants Asylum to Davis Mac-Iyalla; Now the Rest of the Story

Davis Mac-Iyalla wearing my Purdue sweatshirt, under my crucifix in my home office.

I am pleased to note that the United Kingdom has granted the asylum petition of Davis Mac-Iyalla, the Nigerian Anglican Gay activist, with whom I’ve had frequent dealings.

The decision comes smack in the middle of the Lambeth Conference, where bishops of the worldwide Anglican Communion are in the midst of an orchestrated crackup over homosexuality.

The British government’s asylum decision has been reported in The Times of London, among many other media outlets. The news has been greeted with howls of outrage by anti-Gay zealots eager to preserve a favorable image of Archbishop Peter Akinola and the Church of Nigeria (Anglican), who have persecuted Mac-Iyalla for years as an embarassment to their anti-Gay crusade.

I know Mr. Mac-Iyalla better than anyone else in the United States, having served as sponsor of his six-week, coast-to-coast American tour last year. We spent every day and evening together, living in the same hotels and homes, sometimes in the same room.

I believe the British Government has made the proper decision in his case. Now that he is presumably safe, I am free to tell what I know of this man, one of the “World’s 50 Most Influential Anglicans.”

I do not like Davis Mac-Iyalla, nor do I trust him. But I believe him.

Indeed, I brought him to the United States last year to save his life from Church-inspired violence.

I was present when he met with an immigration attorney at the offices of Episcopal Migration Ministries in New York. We were there to evaluate the case for Davis’s applying for asylum in the U.S. The attorney pronounced it a very winnable case, though the U.S., like the U.K., does not generally look favorably upon impoverished Africans with sob stories.

Davis was not particularly convincing during this meeting, for which he arrived late. We’d had a disagreement about how to get from Chelsea Square to 815 2nd Avenue. He insisted on taking a taxi, while I told him as a steward of Episcopalians’ money that a bus would be fast, efficient and cheaper.

Once he arrived, he began telling his story of persecution in Nigeria in his laborious, roundabout way. To save time, I provided the lawyer with numerous documents obtainable on the internet, including an eyewitness report in The New York Times of the first secretive meeting of Davis’s LGBT Anglican organization, Changing Attitudes. Other documents included the Nigerian Church’s written smear campaign against Davis, photographs of his first Communion, his commissioning as a lay minister in the Nigerian Diocese of Otupko and a copy of a written death threat. I also provided evidence of Archbishop Akinola’s promotion of a draconian bill in the Nigerian Parliament that would have criminalized with a 14-year term any public or private meeting of LGBT Nigerians or their friends; I called it the “No Gay Lunch” law. I showed that the U.S. State Department under Secretary Condoleeza Rice had denounced the proposed bill and warned the Nigerian government its enactment would be an abuse of human rights.

The American lawyer found these documents convincing. Meanwhile we were also pursuing a request for an investigation by the United Nations’ “special rapporteur” for human rights.

Despite the attorney’s favorable recommendation, Davis chose not to pursue an asylum request, which was entirely within his rights. Richard Parkins, the Episcopal Church’s director of Migration Ministries, had counseled me not to try to persuade Davis, but simply to lay out the case. No one, Parkins said, has the right to tell another person to uproot himself from his country of origin for an unknown future elsewhere. I disagreed with Davis’s decision, but I accepted it.

The U.K.’s asylum decision is for me the best possible outcome; Davis can live in freedom and I don’t have to put up with him in the United States.

I found his private behavior over the six weeks we were together to be rude, manipulative, arrogant, spendthrifty and destructive. He was continually sexually predatory, in ways both disgusting and laughable. Our tour nearly broke apart in Chicago after the first week; I had to seek the intervention of two Lesbian priests who were hosting us. I also had to warn Bishop Gene Robinson, who had consented to a joint appearance with Davis at a Pride Week Eucharist in New York, of the difficulties Davis’s behavior presented, so that the bishop would not be embarassed by the association.

Earlier in Cleveland, the Dean of Trinity Cathedral, Tracey Lind, had to send her curate the Rev. Judith Alexis to fetch Davis to attend a Choral Evensong, after which a dinner was held in his honor. Though I had warned Davis of the time, I could not pry him loose from an explicit Gay website (silverdaddies.com) offering dating and chats with “sugar daddies.” He was in mid-chat and he wasn’t about to lose a live prospect. Ms. Alexis, Caribbean-born, her hair in dreadlocks, finally dragged him into the nave.

The entire tour was like that, but we managed to keep it together. He “scored” twice, both times while we were resident at American seminaries.

He did manage to keep up his appearances, and though he never became expert at presenting an overview of Nigerian LGBT Anglicans’ experience, dawdling too long on his own story and failing to connect it with the larger, even global issues, he can be an eloquent and powerful speaker. He managed to “nail” his speech once in Tucson, Arizona, ironically in a large parish that was more indifferent to him than any of his other venues.

He was also moderately effective in two appearances before the Episcopal Church’s Executive Council in Parsippany, New Jersey—visits I arranged with the help of Bonnie Anderson, President of the House of Deputies. We sat together at dinner that night.

Davis is occasionally prone to hyperbole and exaggeration, though I never heard him say, in his public appearances, a single thing that wasn’t true. One can question some of his interpretations of events and personalities in the Church, particularly the role of Archbishop Akinola and his associates, but Davis is a credible, dedicated and self-sacrificing advocate for LGBTs in West Africa and in the Anglican Communion. For that I respect him and call him my brother.

It is immoral, wrong and sinful to persecute this man. Archbishop Akinola and his allies—African, British, Australian and American—must answer for their encouragement of anti-Gay violence, whether physical, verbal, written or ecclesiastical. It is the Church itself they are attacking, to enhance their own power and wealth.

Indeed, the maintenance of power and wealth are always the sources of homophobic bigotry. That’s why the Archbishop of Canterbury acts as he does at the Lambeth Conference, to maintain the power and wealth of the Church of England and the Anglican Communion.

All over Africa, politicians allied with religious leaders incite anti-Gay violence and scapegoating. From Nigeria to Zimbabwe, Ghana to Uganda and Kenya, the cooperation of Anglican Churches in transparent schemes with the local strongman is an international scandal.

Davis himself is very familiar with this system of corruption; indeed for the first 30 years of his life, until he came out as Gay, he benefited from it. He grew up amidst fabulous wealth as the son of a Nigerian Army colonel. When we stayed overnight in the lovely home of a Gay American couple, renovated with taste and class and overlooking the Hudson River near West Park, New York, Davis dismissed his surroundings as “no better than my father’s children’s quarters.”

That he managed to say this, while living in a hovel in Togo, took my breath away.

Davis unfortunately understands gifts and bribes as “the way the world works.” Remember his constant visits to that “sugar daddy” website in the U.S.? If he had met a wealthy older man here, he’d have applied for asylum last year.

But his decision to leave his father’s home, to enter into poverty and danger, to subject himself to international abuse, even to give up his beloved Nigeria, in order to advocate for LGBTs in Africa and in the Church shows just how authentic, believable and faithful his witness is.

I do not like Davis Mac-Iyalla, I do not want him near me—but I recognize the Christ in him.

I will go to my grave proclaiming that the Holy Spirit got Davis that U.S. visa in 2007, after he’d been denied entry two years ago by both the U.S. and U.K. Mr. Parkins advised, two members of Congress helped, Episcopalians gave donations and issued invitations and I did my part coordinating a thousand pieces, but it was the Spirit of God Himself that moved the bureaucratic mountain and brought Davis to temporary safety.

If God be for him, who can be against him?

Who else stands for Nigerian Gay people against the entire edifice of Anglicanism? No wonder Akinola and Williams are so afraid.

One could never know this from iconography or Renaissance paintings, but as often as not, saints stink. To which Gene Robinson advises, “Love them anyway.”++


  1. Josh, thanks fo this great report.

    Comment by James — July 29, 2008 @ 4:14 pm | Reply

  2. Dear Josh, thank you for being straight forward with this “first hand” report (that is very hard to bring to the surface)…it is important. Being “clear” regarding the everyday “expectations” and “manners” of Davis Mac-Iyalla when he was “hosted” by you for six weeks is helpful…it may be helpful to generous folks who encounter him and wish to help him on another day…you’ve given a personal history for all to see…your candid report also may be helpful to “LGBT” Christians/others in situations like Davis who consider themselves “entitled” no matter what their REAL “situation” in life may be…getting “rightsized” counts, at least it’s helped me and Davis is a very grown up adult.

    My not-so-soft heart goes out everyday to those LGBT Nigerians and Ugandans who suffer from oppression and are persecuted at The Anglican Church and other demoralizing religious regimes…I learned some time ago to be especially careful after my good intentions backfired and I became a “sucker” of a victim for a straight/married Anglican priest-of-a-con artist in Uganda (I have names/details etc. if anyone is interested)…I believed him and his “call for helping” Gay Anglicans who were being tormented…unfortunately he was/is a destructionist/thieving clergy thug, Anglican like us, and the HELP was lost to his deceitfulness and greed.

    It reminds me that ALL Anglicans/others are sometimes good and sometimes not so good citizens/people at The Body of Christ…but, we knew that anyway…didn’t we.

    Comment by Leonardo Ricardo, San Juan, Puerto Rico — July 29, 2008 @ 5:55 pm | Reply

  3. It would be naive to think we can stay afloat in a sea of toxicity, and not have the various poisons (respective of our particular cultures—whether Nigerian, U.S. or U.K.!) not permeate our beings.

    I pray Davis Mac-Iyalla is able to make a new start in a place where the inner and outer person can begin to be integrated (clearly not currently possible for an LGBT person in Nigeria. Suffering Lord Jesus, strengthen ALL your children!)

    Lord have mercy on us all…

    Comment by JCF — July 29, 2008 @ 10:46 pm | Reply

  4. Well, Josh, a certain virtuless place has used your who post. I hope they asked permission beforehand.

    I was struck by your honesty in describing him. Although I have not met him, there was something about his photograph and some statements that “turned me off” of him.

    Comment by James — July 30, 2008 @ 2:02 am | Reply

  5. Well Josh… On the face of it, not so many of our “heroes” actually meet the standard of our expectations, our need to have idols to idolize ;=) People from pre-modern cultures can be… well… pre-modern in attitudes ;=)

    This does not make them liars, however, as so many commenters – high on anti Modern Kool-Aid – claim on Ruth‘s Times Online Blog, but tell us something of their circumstances…

    We, on the other hand, are very lucky…

    Comment by Göran Koch-Swahne — July 30, 2008 @ 5:53 am | Reply

  6. So David Virtue takes advantage of this to make some talking points? Aren’t se amased… Anaything that can be used against anyone ;=)

    Comment by Göran Koch-Swahne — July 30, 2008 @ 5:57 am | Reply

  7. […] The man in question is Davis Mac-Iyalla, Chair of Changing Attitude Nigeria. The website that has exposed him is the brilliantly vitriolic "Akinola Repent!!", (hardly a bastion of Conservatism) and the whole blog piece makes fascinating reading. Go check it out now. […]

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  9. Josh –

    This may be an accurate view of your perspective of your trip with Davis, but it is not one that is shared by Oasis California, the group that paid your air fare and provided you with housing so that you could accompany Davis to San Francisco and participate in our city’s 2007 pride parade.

    Looking back, in light of your article here, I see Oasis should have declined to pay for you to accompany Davis. As I recall, you seized control of Davis and his itinerary, insisting that we pay for your transportation so you could accompany Davis.

    At the time we thought Davis did not need someone to “handle” him. But based on your representation that Davis wanted, no insisted that you accompany him we paid your expenses. Once you arrived, we soon learned this was not the case, that Davis was perfectly capable of flying cross country without an attendant.

    One of my clearest memories of your time in San Francisco was your insistence that you ride in the car with our bishop. As a result of your unexpected demand, we had to turn away members of Oasis whose disabilities prevented them from walking the parade route.

    Since you have chosen to repay our hospitality with an ‘expose’ that plays into the hands of those who seek to demonize gay and lesbian people, it would be fair for you to reimburse Oasis California for the expense of your round trip flight.

    Comment by Thomas Jackson — July 30, 2008 @ 1:43 pm | Reply

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    Comment by jack spratt — July 30, 2008 @ 2:15 pm | Reply

  11. I pray Davis Mac-Iyalla is able to make a new start in a place where the inner and outer person can begin to be integrated (clearly not currently possible for an LGBT person in Nigeria. Suffering Lord Jesus, strengthen ALL your children!) JCF

    This is appropriate and denial and fingerwaving/blaming is stupid and makes “Our Cause” look like we are shallow, shrill/vain and can’t be OPEN and RESPONSIBLE…did it occur to the “cross accuser” that Josh may have been attempting to HELP them with a little quickly learned/adapted, and badly needed, “damage control?”

    BTW, I also donated to Davis and “the U.S. tour” and my gift was filled with hope that Davis could/would be able to tell the story of dangerous repression under the Akinolian Anglican regime in Nigeria (years earlier a much larger donation was directed to go to the relief of a aledged jailed/oppressed person in Uganda but that money was mismanaged by twisted/tricky “twits” instead).

    Davis was able to “tell the anti-LGBT Akinola/Nigerian Story” just fine…thank you Josh for raising money for him to do it and thank you for all that you do and have done for LGBT Episcopalians/Anglicans on a daily basis.

    Comment by Leonardo Ricardo, San Juan, Puerto Rico — July 30, 2008 @ 5:52 pm | Reply

  12. Sorry Josh, but this posting says a lot more about you than it does about Davis Mac-Iyalla. I think you should take it down as it embarrasses you a whole lot more than you realize.

    Comment by Saddened — July 30, 2008 @ 10:20 pm | Reply

  13. I want to add to Leonardo Riccardo’s piece about how thankful I am for Josh’s giving an opportunity to participate in Davis Mac-Iyalla’s tour, spreading the word of the reality of the conditions of third world gays in pre-modern cultures.

    Coercion, Corruption and Violence.

    In my mind the flaws of the person does not detract from the plights and nescessities of living under those conditions, and the need for resistance to the same.

    Comment by Göran Koch-Swahne — July 31, 2008 @ 2:51 am | Reply

  14. Josh, I appreciate that you waited until Davis was granted asylum before you said these things. Therefore he is safe. But I wonder how safe other gay Nigerians are when stories like this are picked up by homophobes just itching to hear anything to confirm their hatred?

    While initially I was glad this story had been broken sooner rather than later, the more I think about it, the more I wish you had dealt with this privately. We can already see how this plays into the hands of homophobes with ignorant and mendacious comments like this: “This guy is in fact a typical homosexual, moving from one slimy relationship to the next.” Ugly, ill-informed and fuel for acts of hatred.

    Comment by Dave Rattigan — July 31, 2008 @ 5:38 am | Reply

  15. Josh,

    Are you able to email me? mail at peter-ould dot net

    Comment by pould — July 31, 2008 @ 7:13 am | Reply

  16. It was certainly courageous of you to post this honest assessment and expose yourself to the vitriol like that Oasis California note above. I said this at Stand Firm: It is easy (for conservatives) to gloat. But I find it all terribly sad that this person is enslaved to sexual sin and surrounded by those who won’t help him to free himself from those bonds.

    And Jill Woodliff offered this prayer: Heavenly Father,
    Our eyes are so blind. Our hearts are so small. Our faith is so little. We bring to you in prayer Davis, Josh, Susan, Changing Attitudes, and Integrity. In simple trust we commit them into your hands. We thank you that you love them more than we do and understand their every need. Do for them, O Lord, what we cannot do, and what you see is most for their good; for Jesus’ sake. Amen.

    Comment by robroy — July 31, 2008 @ 7:14 am | Reply

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    Comment by jack spratt — July 31, 2008 @ 7:21 am | Reply

  18. jack spratt, shame on you, no point just re-posting a long article as your own comment here, especially if it’s in criticism of the main viewpoints expressed here.
    Josh, the article in question is well-written but you will most likely hate it. It expresses the deep frustrations of one gay man’s attempt to find monogamy in the Christian gay community. You’ll probably find it prone to exaggeration and homophobic rhetoric, I would find some of it inexcusable if it were not for what the man had been through – just as a lot of gay writing probably wouldn’t quite pass muster of being “non-incindiary,” were it not for the situation gay people sometimes find themselves in. Nonetheless, this article is well worth the read – I myself read quite a lot of articles that I find prone to incindiary statements, exaggeration and heterophobia, but that I still find interesting. The full article is at http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/BksFrntPorn.htm if you care to read it. There’s a big challenge to gay Christians when it comes to the issue of sexual ethics. Is it possible to express a sexual ethics from an Integrity point of view? Is the Christian gay community in danger of living unethically sexually, with the inevitable consequences for gay people and others in other areas of life?

    Comment by no good jack — July 31, 2008 @ 8:29 am | Reply

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    Comment by jack spratt — July 31, 2008 @ 8:44 am | Reply

  20. Being a human rights activist is a very stressful job. Few people do it well without support, as Davis has, following his own inner light. A crisis threatens to break out at any moment: a government crackdown, followers arrested, beaten or killed; somebody says something on a blog.

    We are told that Martin Luther King Jr. was a “womanizer.” Bayard Rustin, who organized the 1963 March on Washington, was Gay. They were human beings, imperfect, just as I am and just as Davis Mac-Iyalla is.

    However, we have no indication that King or Rustin had to be pried away from a tryst to get to the demonstration on time.

    This is Davis’s opportunity to get his act together, to learn to act like a professional; to redeem himself and be redeemed by God as we all must be. There is no need to cover up for Davis anymore; his claim of persecution by the Nigerian Church and state has been legally verified by the British government, to the great shame of Peter Akinola and his gullible American sheep. All they see is “anti-Gay archbishop,” so they flock to him, despite the stain of violence on his cope and miter.

    If Davis is to be a leader from here on out, he needs to be much more accountable.

    As for the fellow from Oasis California, I have no recollection of him. It’s true I had to ride in San Francisco and not walk, as I broke three bones in my right foot while driving Davis around Ohio a few weeks before. No one told me I was displacing anyone, certainly not a person with disabilities; for seven years I slung around a wheelchair every day for my late lover, a double amputee.

    Comment by josh — July 31, 2008 @ 1:43 pm | Reply

  21. Thanks Josh, that’s exactly as I see it…this thread will give Davis a excellent opportunity to reposition, rethink, regroup and grow forward on a better note and with BETTER cooperation from people who WANT to be helpful to him…Christians/Anglicans who wish to continue to ASSIST him as he EXPOSES the degrading and lunatic outcasting that seems a “standard” spiritual spew of a message coming from the Akinolian Anglican Church/Nigeria.

    I think it’s SICK to cover-up OUR own dirty laundry/secrets while rushing about discovering and exposing the filth preached against us by Bishops of the Global South and beyond…we must remain transparent, accountable and responsible…who cares what the slimebags/nutbags think? Not me!

    Comment by Leonardo Ricardo, San Juan, Puerto Rico — July 31, 2008 @ 8:04 pm | Reply

  22. To “No good Jack”: I believe that monogamy is the best way to go, not just based on the Bible (where it’s hardly enshrined as the only model), but because it also makes for the best relationship/marriage.

    It also makes for the best sexual relationship, knowing and being known.

    But it takes a great deal of honest, self-disclosive communication, a huge capacity for intimacy; most people have no clue how to do that. They have to be taught. The Church is not yet prepared to offer such instruction, and neither is the LGBT community. We are, after all, trying not to get thrown out of the Church and the Air Force, trying to stay out of jail in Nigeria and trying not to get executed in Iran.

    It would be ideal if Integrity, Dignity, MCC and others were ready to help singles and couples develop faithful, committed relationships, but frankly we’re too busy putting out fires to take on fire prevention.

    I hope someday to finish a novel dealing with Gay Christian monogamy (that’s my ultimate goal in life), but it is proving maddeningly difficult because of my own artistic and intellectual limitations.

    A friend of mine once said, “I don’t believe that two people become one. Two become three: You, I and We.” There’s something to that, even when the goal is to become We more and more.

    My deepest belief is that the surest way for any couple to get to Marriage Land, that ideal state that so few achieve and millions use as a club over others’ heads, is by practicing the Daily Office and centering prayer together.

    So far all my characters can manage is one psalm at dinner during Advent, while the cop learns what the wreath is about. Then he gets sent away for emergency duty in another city, and his beloved is left to light the candle alone.

    Life is complicated, and we all rebel. What I hope to do is to give these guys a system, a shorthand, a program (a commitment) — so whatever the complications and rebellions, they still get to where they want and need to be, with some revelatory sex and tenderness.

    It’s a tall order, but God is like a magnet.

    Comment by josh — July 31, 2008 @ 11:56 pm | Reply

  23. Josh, thanks so much for your thoughtful reply here. You’ll be in my prayers, especially regarding your novel and your reflections about how Christ calls you as a disciple. I hadn’t been aware that you are the one behind dailyoffice site, inspiring and impressive work indeed. Yes, praying the daily office together can help greatly in growing together in God.

    Comment by no good jack — August 1, 2008 @ 6:45 am | Reply

  24. Well cheers, Josh. Thanks to your post my blog was bombarded by cut and paste trolls. Unless, of course, you are calling yourself “harris” and harassing me for some reason. To be honest, I’ve had to take every comment on the subject down because even I dare not have it up it because it goes way beyond what English libel laws allow.

    Comment by MadPriest — August 1, 2008 @ 2:57 pm | Reply

  25. To be honest I am shocked, to say the least. I do not see what possible good this post has or will accomplish.

    Josh, are you lying now for some sour grapes or as some unrequited lover, or were you lying on your other blog when you were reporting in glowing terms what a great trip you had with Davis?

    I do not believe that you understand the damage that you have done to the GLBT cause in the AC at this moment. Instead of handling this quietly you have publicly turned and eaten your own. You have not done anyone a favor with this “exposé.”

    I say this as one who has experienced sexual predators in the church. I am an old fashioned boy and do not condone dishonesty in leaders or dismiss a hidden or double life. But I would not handle such an issue in this manner.

    You have shot all of us in the head.

    I remember a statement from a wise man. “Wise is the (person) who says what needs to be said, but not all that could be said.”

    I am also shocked at those of you here who I have known and respected patting Josh on the back as if he has done something good here. He has not. The cause of Christ and the cause for GLBT Christians and Anglicans will suffer. This “exposé will haunt us for years to come. Please think about the damage in which you have all participated.

    Comment by David |däˈvēd| — August 1, 2008 @ 8:10 pm | Reply

  26. The other blog link in my above post should have been to this article.

    Without a preview option it is difficult to test that links are correct.

    Comment by David |däˈvēd| — August 1, 2008 @ 8:13 pm | Reply

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  28. Despite Duhveed’s violent imagery, I haven’t shot a gun since I was 10 years old, when I missed a tin can at the town dump.

    I had nothing to do with MadPriest’s internet problems, and I don’t know anyone named “harris.” I didn’t ask MP to post anything, send him a link or seek publicity from him. His crucified frog graphic is predictably offensive, but that’s what MadPriest does. Most of the time I find him thoughtful and entertaining, except when he goes on anti-Muslim rants.

    These paranoid reactions remind me of the time 22 years ago when I found out that the treasurer of AIDS Volunteers of Cincinnati was suspected of embezzling $10,000, a huge sum in those days when AIDS wasn’t a charity but a radical cause.

    The treasurer’s name was Gloria Buchholz. The other officers tried to keep the theft quiet, because they had a big fundraiser coming up, headlined by a society dame named Irma Lazarus, a department store heiress and arts patron. Confirming the story took more twists and turns than Woodward and Bernstein with Deep Throat: “unless you call me off, and I ask you to do so if I’m wrong, this is what I’m reporting.” I did everything but meet secretly in a subterranean parking garage.

    Of course my sources were desperate to talk, but no one wanted to be associated with a scandal. None of the officers even thought to call the cops, which is the logical thing to do when ten grand goes missing; Irma Lazarus was embracing people with AIDS! Did I not realize the great significance? She’s about to touch the lepers! What if Irma calls the whole thing off?

    But what good is fundraising if someone steals the money?

    A week before her big soirée, I reported the story in Ohio’s Gay Newspaper, and was promptly reviled for “shooting us all in the head.” How dare I?

    Then Saturday came, the socialites paraded—and raised 100 grand, by far the biggest fundraiser ever.

    The difference was that this time, no one stole the money, because we made AVOC’s officers accountable.

    They didn’t back down and neither did I. A good time was had by all. People with AIDS were the beneficiaries, and the new treasurer was closely supervised. Irma saw to that, bless her heart.

    But how dared I question their holiness? Even though they let ten grand slip out the door, I was Enemy #1 of People with AIDS!

    Funny thing; I am the founder of AIDS Volunteers of Cincinnati. It’s the second-oldest AIDS organization in the world. (Now known as Stop AIDS Cincinnati, they’re professionals, a multi-million-dollar operation, and don’t care to be considered volunteers.)

    Gloria Buchholz was never charged with a crime and later became an anti-Gay activist who helped Phil Burress pass a city charter amendment prohibiting Gay rights in Cincinnati.

    But in time, even the Chamber of Commerce turned against that amendment (discrimination is bad for business, it costs money) and successfully repealed it.

    Too bad, Gloria, you lose. Way to go, Irma, you win. The truth hurts momentarily, but it can lead to reform. It’s always better to know than to wonder, and Davis Mac-Iyalla can yet become a great man.++

    Comment by josh — August 2, 2008 @ 7:38 am | Reply

  29. Josh, your post confirms what I suspected in the above Davis exposé. You have an “I” problem. “It is all about me.” Everything about the story about the AIDS charity is written to highlight you. I think that the Davis exposé is really something about you. And I think that you did it with malice in your heart. Something has eaten inside you like a cancer and has finally come spewing out with all its foulness.

    As I recall, the biblical example, ascribed to Jesus himself, is that if you have an issue with another Christian, you go to them personally and try to straighten things out. If unsuccessful, you take a couple of folks to witness your attempt and try again. If that does not work, you turn the situation over to the Elders of the Church.

    I am not aware of the 21st Century, Internet Addendum; “Folks forget what I said about dealing with a fellow Christian in private. The internet is here. Publish what you know in a big exposé. With malice aforethought, drag a brother’s or sister’s name through the mud and the slime so it may speed with the velocity of the electrons for the whole world to know.”

    Did you think about what this story can do to endanger the CA-Nigeria folks still in Nigeria? You “saved” this exposé until Davis was no longer in harm’s way. Folks crazy enough to harass and threaten Davis are crazy enough to do the same to his associates because of “Guilt by association.” Kill all the fags and queers for they are all the same. Davis did it, so do these others.

    BTW, your post about the AIDS charity did not answer any of my questions. You merely deflected the attention to an unrelated topic.

    Brother Josh, take down this exposé. Repent of this sin and seek counsel to overcome this vileness you feel toward a brother.

    Comment by David |däˈvēd| — August 2, 2008 @ 9:00 am | Reply

  30. One is wise and emotionally/spiritually healthy when one speaks in the first person…although we are “we’s” in the LGBT cause for inclusion at ALL levels of Church life it still takes all the “I’s” and their indivdual experience (sometimes, no surprise like being sexually “bothered” at Church as an adult) and other not so pretty/holy adventures to get CLOSE to reporting HONESTLY who we ARE!

    Heterosexuals are equally challened and often brought to “task” for indiscretions or out-of-line behavior…we are ALL flawed.

    If one goes to any “destructionist” website, anyday/anytime, their is a abundance of LIES and SLURS being told/written about people like me…and people like you too? LIES that infuriate me. Unfortunately, some of the TRUTHS about people like me (and you?) infuriate me too, sometimes my OWN make me cringe or be embarrassed…that is until I stop IDEALIZING myself (and us and look at the facts).

    I must always remember that I, in fact, have quite a “checkered” past (active alcoholism for 17 years doesn’t always take one to healthy places with sainted companions)…a “checkered past” that was easily tucked away under a great “socially acceptable” cover…however I did NOTE my tendency to generalize or overlook behaivor that was accepted norms in a under-ground-world/closeted world. Guess what? Much of that “underground” activity wasn’t good for me…not good for me spiritually. In order to CAST MY EYES toward perfection I must do a lot of self-searching…sometimes, most often, that self-searching is forced upon me…you see, if I’m really talking about my character “defects” and I must be responsible for them (individually) and I must be aware of them or made to be aware of them in order to “repent”…Josh, has made us all aware, of his very well intetioned character and LOVE for us as he strives to “be responsible” and tell the truth about his time spent with Davis…it seems that way to me. I appreciate, openness and honesty and I’m keenly aware that “prefering to not think about it” and being “outcasted” by my fellow “outcasts” makes me uneasy…however the over-all need for transparency in ALL that I do is what gives one INTEGRIT..and it is quite a challenge to attempt to reveal unfortunate, and abusive, behavior at home.

    There are consequences for speaking honestly when PRIDE, Gay or otherwise, is injured.

    Josh, I’m proud of your ability to write/speak about unfortunate aspects of OUR reality and not be caught up in some false sense of “appropriate” behavior while perpetuates harmful “social agreements” and promotes shabby/dangerous “appearances.”

    In the END we have NO PLACE TO HIDE (or be hidden)…false pride stinks and will do nothing to help ANY Gay person be accountable for REAL actions at Church or amongst one another.

    I think each one of us must be FULLY, and are striving to be responsible in all of our affairs in order for our REAL character and value as a group may shine through…SHINE as we attempt to help, by serving one another at The Anglican Communion…it’s not easy, we start with good reputations (generally speaking that is).

    The rest is false pride, or worse, denial and pretend that I/we are different than we REALLY are…let’s not taint our character by promoting cover-ups and refusing to address harmful situations that appear before us (many thrive on such hypocrisy when it is uncovered amongst “conservatives”)!

    Comment by Leonardo Ricardo, San Juan, Puerto Rico — August 2, 2008 @ 9:50 am | Reply

  31. Please, pause

    Today is the funeral of Josh’s Husband…I think it would be a good idea to offer Josh the space, prayers of support he genuinely deserves at this time.

    Peace be with you

    Comment by Leonardo Ricardo, San Juan, Puerto Rico — August 2, 2008 @ 10:20 am | Reply

  32. I don’t think Josh has a problem with Narcissism in the slightest, contrary to what David is suggesting. Real narcissism looks utterly different.

    Comment by pould — August 2, 2008 @ 10:38 am | Reply

  33. Leonardo, I have not asked for a cover up. I have asked that a brother in Christ heed the teaching of the Christ in how to proceed with dealing with the perceived faults of another brother in Christ.

    I am not even saying that this was not Josh’s experience with Davis. I am saying that this is not the way to deal with it. It is certainly not the Christian way. It is the modern first world secular way.

    And what good has come of this? Just about every hate site has picked it up. They have recorded this post in their archives. They will trot it out whenever in the future it will suit their needs.

    This has been felt all the way to Canterbury. Our brothers and sisters there are baffled as to what good purpose this serves.

    I also have personal correspondence from a number of folks who know Davis and do not share this experience of him. Including those involved with financially assisting him to live in the UK because he has not been allowed to work.

    There are a number of current fotos on the internet of +Gene and Davis together in England over the past weeks at various venues. +Gene seems to have no issues after having been warned.

    This serves none of us well. Not even Josh.
    Josh, mu brother, I am sorry for your loss. May your husband rest in peace and rise in glory.

    Flights of angels have sung him to his rest and he has entered the Eternal City, where he communes with the Saints and Martyrs, and enjoys the celebration of the Banquet Table of our Lord Christ.

    Comment by David |däˈvēd| — August 2, 2008 @ 11:17 am | Reply

  34. Peter I was not speaking of Narcissism. I certainly do not believe that you are participating here for any good cause. Are you there repaired homosexual, or is that your brother?
    Sorry about the bolding. I wish there was a way to Preview posts before they are final.

    Comment by David |däˈvēd| — August 2, 2008 @ 11:21 am | Reply

  35. David,

    You wrote – “You have an “I” problem”. That’s as good a five word explanation of narcissism as I have ever encountered.

    I happen to disagree with Josh on a huge number of things, but on this I think he’s absolutely right. Mac-Iyalla needs to be exposed for what he is and pro-GBLT organisations need to cease trying to brush sexual licentiousness of their leadership under the carpet.

    Comment by Peter O — August 2, 2008 @ 1:08 pm | Reply

  36. And just to clarify, I know that most Christian GLBT leaders are committed to, and practice monogamy.

    Comment by Peter O — August 2, 2008 @ 1:39 pm | Reply

  37. David, Josh has made abundantly clear that people had been informed of these problems but apparently didn’t want to listen – he was sent to Lambeth anyways. No, not for Josh to determine who’s the face for the Christian LGBT community, but he doesn’t pretend to, and I think this article is likely to encourage discussion. Josh knew when he posted this that he would be blamed, as he was in the theft case. Davis Mac-Iyalla doesn’t need to be seen as a representative for a Christian organization in order to describe what life for gay people is like in Nigeria. I’m also sure that many won’t agree with Josh or find Davis’s behavior incompatible with Christian ethics – in that case, why get your knickers all twisted over it? If this is your view and you’re still angry at Josh, think of what kind of new closet the church will be for you when its message is the message that Integrity is promoting, that sex is only for within the confines of lifelong monogamous relationships – and your organizations were the ones that promoted this message. You’ll have come “out” in one way and convinced the church of a lie – that what you wanted was a gay monogamous relationship – when what you really wanted was something quite different. You don’t want that, it’s just another lie and another closet for you to be hiding in. You would do better to have your organizations promote the message that more honestly reflects what it is that you want.

    And if things do come to a “round two,” when the church is then asked to bless non-monogamous relationships, or redefine monogamy, heteros by that time are likely to have lost patience with the whole ongoing tiresome sex rights in the church debate, and inclined to presuppose that “gay” means, “we got the rights, and now we’re all pretending to be monogamous and living in the new closet.” They will be too tired of the sex wars to want to begin yet another round, and you’ll be stuck in that new closet. And what will gays who are looking for Christ be? They will be: * awful confused * ! They’ll be more likely to turn away from Christ entirely when they see the sex wars still raging in the church – gays will be “theoretically” accepted in the church, but still marginalized because of the new sex wars over a new topic. If you don’t stay on-message here, it is not going to be good for your community. Asking for non-monogamous blessings will just be too ridiculous, shame the whole gay community, and keep it in that new virtual closet. Gay people will be divided as to what to choose, and when people hear about a “gay priest,” they’ll be inclined to presuppose that he’s not living up to what the Christian gay community had fought for.

    Is staying monogamous easy? Of course not. Will keeping the Christian gay community on-track and striving for monogamy be easy? It will even more difficult, an immense challenge, I would guess. Will it mean facing discrimination from the rest of the gay community? Yes, frequently it will! Welcome to the challenge of being committed to Christ. But the Christian gay community needs to make choices * now * about what it’s asking and how it defines itself, and a part of that choice is in its leadership.

    Sure, many will fail at monogamy, as many already * do * fail at monogamy – time then to confess, repent, call on God for healing and strength, and try again – going celibate for a while first helps. This is dealing with sin. Everyone does it – dealing with sin – this is still the case if they don’t believe that the word “sin” is even applicable to anything regarding sexuality, and they only wrestle with sin in other issues.

    Right now, who your leaders are is very important. Not only for perceptions of the outside world, but for the Christian gay community itself. Lots of gay men look up to gay Christian leadership – and if these guys can’t keep it zippered when they’re not with their partner, it’ll be so much harder for community members to do so – that ever-looming excuse of “our Christian gay leaders do it too.”

    Integrity and Changing Attitudes still have the opportunity of allowing Davis to discuss the situation of gays in Nigeria, as would any other Nigerian gay activist who’s not explicitly affiliated with a Christian organization, and to say that this discussion was their primary reason for having him talk in the States and at Lambeth, though they don’t think it’s appropriate for him to be a representative of Integrity or Changing Attitudes. After all, they’ve only gotten to know him quite recently.

    One last comment that doesn’t have to do with this issue: be sure to think about yourself – God loves you so much, and not only as just as a person who dares to speak up for the rights of gay people. Don’t let the sex wars or your identity within the sex wars blind you to God’s grace and will for your own life. It’s too easy with all the invective and suffering to be distracted, and miss out on the great gift of renewal that God intends for all who look to Him.

    Comment by no good jack — August 2, 2008 @ 1:51 pm | Reply

  38. No Good Jack,
    I find your post confusing. But it is mostly the way you use English.

    I am an Anglican Christian. I am committed to living a monogamous life. I hold that as the ideal and commitment for all Christians, whatever their sexuality, whether laity or clergy. I do not find living a monogamous life a closet, nor for my part difficult. I would never wish, nor support, having my church, the Anglican Church of Mexico, to bless non-monogamous relationships.

    I do not pass judgement on the lives of single folks who have become sexually active with partners, serial monogamy to most folks.

    My partner and I did not have the benefit of marriage before his death. We were childhood playmates and best friends, besides cousins. We had 11 cherished years as partners. I was faithful to him. I believe that he was faithful to me. There are only two jurisdictions here in Mexico which have legalized gay & lesbian unions and that is very recent.

    I am not angry with Josh. I am disappointed that he has taken this step. It serves no good purpose for any of us. And I believe that it is unChristian.

    I see nothing in Josh’s story that points to Davis being unfaithful to a partner. I see an attempt to scandalize a brother’s name because he has a personality Josh found abrading, is not as good a public speaker as others, wanted to take a taxi as opposed to a bus, was “seeking a sugar daddy” online, and reportedly had two sexual liaisons during the trip.
    Although I do not know him personally, I know of him and having Peter Ould, twin brother of David Ould, associated with Stand Firm in Faith, circling this situation is the same as finding carrion birds circling in the desert awaiting a putrid morsel.

    Comment by David |däˈvēd| — August 2, 2008 @ 4:33 pm | Reply

  39. I can’t follow this thread today; as Leonardo said, I’ve got someone else in mind, a guy I took care of for eight years “for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health,” so long as we both would live.

    I made a commitment and kept it, the single best thing I’ve ever done.

    He went through a dozen amputations in that time, then lived another 15 years and died a month ago. His funeral was today and I couldn’t bear to attend, because the people to whom he gave charge of his affairs wanted to treat me as just another barfly-friend.

    I think back to that wedding (I don’t know what else to call it), held at home, not in a church as I’d have preferred. A priest presided and 40 witnesses looked on, including my mother. I still have the pictures, the ring, the service leaflet, the two little plastic men perched on top of the cake. What did that night mean to me?

    I promised God; it all comes down to that. Not just Jack, or my friends, or “the church.” I don’t make promises to God that I don’t keep. I didn’t know I was even capable of keeping such a promise, but I did. And it made a better man of me, a better person.

    Lambeth can argue theology all it wants, but this is how real people live. If you promise God, you better effing mean it.

    That night was as significant in my religious life as anything else I’ve ever done; equal to the promises of Confirmation, of Commissioning, equal almost to Baptism (which I was too little to remember, so promises were made for me). In my feelings, it’s more important than any of them; I promised Jack and God together, and I would never betray them. That’s just a given!

    So here I am tonight, by myself, tears threatening, not making much sense, while people go back and forth over something I wrote. Shrug, who cares. The cosmos is not disturbed.

    But to the depths of my being I know God cares; that God gave me Jack and the capacity to love him; and that this God is a Lover Like No Other.

    Human love is a window into heaven. If the Church can’t find Jesus through the window, it doesn’t mean he’s not there. He IS there if we look, if we have the courage to see. It’s not a surprise that some people don’t have the courage, it’s a surprise that some people do.

    Thank you, God, for every minute with Jack. If you can, if you will, love him into heaven for me! Then I will be at rest.++

    Comment by josh — August 2, 2008 @ 5:00 pm | Reply

  40. Brother Josh, I can relate to your pain. I remember the deep anguish I felt for a very long time when Roberto died.

    May God bless you and keep you!

    Comment by David |däˈvēd| — August 2, 2008 @ 5:09 pm | Reply

  41. Me too Josh, my heart is touched by your memories of Jack and that promise to God.

    I just returned from a luncheon in our Capital City…it was held in a elegant flat with great sweeping views of the City…the weather was gorgeous (right in the middle of fierce rains of yesterday that were promised for today too)…it was the celbration of a Birthday, a New Yorker and his wife who have lived here and in New York for over 37 years…today he was 70 years old, surrounded by long-time friends and his children…I was invited because I’m a friend of theirs too, albeit for only 14+ years…I met them at another dinner party all those years ago…a dinner party I attended with my loved one Jose…today several people fondly remembered Jose to me during the festivities…oddly, I had just been to Jose’s vault at the cemetery earlier this week and my feelings of never-ending devoted friendship were fresh in my mind…making promises to Jose and God matter to me too.

    I salute ALL who are homosexual and have been widowed…there are far too many of us over the years…and many weren’t at all related to AIDS…I don’t believe our loss and our grief is different than anyones elses but because Jose was murdered I’m still dealing with a lot of anger…I always believed God put Jose in my life…and now, over Ten years after his death, Jose is still in my heart and is part of my everyday “being” and “beliving” and a little over a year ago, God introduced me to Juan Carlos too…I have a belief that people “like us” are held to the same “standard” of good character/behavior and basic decency as EVERYONE else…we ought be responsible and accountable as we insist and demand equal acceptance at The Body of Christ.

    Yes, Josh, you’ve strengthened our INTEGRITY by starting this “thread”…if we are to be accepted by other Anglicans we must give up the playing of PRETEND.

    To me, this is essential:

    “Right now, who your leaders are is very important. Not only for perceptions of the outside world, but for the Christian gay community itself. Lots of gay men look up to gay Christian leadership – and if these guys can’t keep it zippered when they’re not with their partner, it’ll be so much harder for community members to do so – that ever-looming excuse of “our Christian gay leaders do it too.”

    Thanks for all the “witness” we’ve seen here and to my dear friend däˈvēd I send you a big hug…I’m glad you survived the rechid hurricane and are back to your perky self with your brothers and sisters…online.


    Comment by Leonardo Ricardo, San Juan, Puerto Rico — August 2, 2008 @ 8:26 pm | Reply

  42. Josh, David, Leonardo, I’m touched by the stories of the losses of your loved ones. Josh, may God be with you today. A few guys I pray with sometimes have had crushing, tragic losses of their partners as well.

    I’m also touched by the honesty here.

    Hugs to all.

    Comment by no good jack — August 3, 2008 @ 6:05 am | Reply

  43. May Jack rest in peace and rise in glory (Roberto, too). Holy Spirit, comfort all the grieving…

    Comment by JCF — August 3, 2008 @ 11:58 pm | Reply

  44. Josh, I’ve been thinking about this…I believe you did a “intervention” that was necessary, timely, open and helpful to all…had it been done less openly I think many of us would not of had to review prideful thinking, accountability and intimate behavior…something like hiding a drunken grandmother in the attic…it’s certain to kill her instead of getting her the REAL HELP that she needs.

    Thank you again.

    Leonardo Ricardo

    Comment by Leonardo Ricardo, San Juan, Puerto Rico — August 6, 2008 @ 4:57 pm | Reply

  45. Memo to Julia Duin of The Washington Times (whose blog linked to mine):

    You didn’t get an interview with Davis Mac-Iyalla because you were rude, hostile and increasingly demanding—not for any ideological reason.

    When you first made a polite request, I was unsure what to do, given your reputation, so I sought advice. You work for an avowedly conservative newspaper owned by the Unification “Church” of Sun Myung Moon, whom most Americans consider a cult leader. This hasn’t stopped you from avidly covering the anti-Gay schism in the worldwide Anglican Communion, or other pet causes of Fundamentalists. If you identify with those Christians, I don’t know how you reconcile taking a paycheck from the Moonies; but A) money talks; B) nothing’s wrong with that; and C) having a controversial employer doesn’t mean you can’t do serious journalism. So I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

    My advisers, a few Integrity people, mostly warned me away from you as a promoter of the anti-Gay cause, but they left the decision up to me. So I wavered for a day or two.

    You phoned again, renewed your request; you were a bit demanding but not impolite, so I took the question to Davis, trying to point out the pros and cons. You work in the nation’s capital; you have an audience among conservative politicians and conservative Christians. These are people we might want to reach and influence. Davis and I didn’t make a decision. (The time frame here is just a few days, and Davis wasn’t scheduled to be in Washington for several weeks.)

    I began to lean in favor of giving you an interview; after all, a newsmaker who isn’t prepared to face a hostile press should confine his or her opinionating to people perched on barstools. Tough questions make for better interviews, and prepare the newsmaker for harder questions.

    The morning after I’d decided that yes, Davis could do an interview with you, I got a screeching, sarcastic message from you, repeating your demands and amplifying your hostility, blaming me as the gatekeeper keeping you from your story. Big mistake.

    I thought, “This person’s out of control, not a real journalist at all. It’s a hatchet job for sure.” Perhaps this is how you reconcile your ethics and the Moonman’s; hatchet jobs on “liberals” make the end justify the means. Just cash the check and don’t look back.

    Since I became in 1977 one of two Gay men to be first to use our full, real names in The Cincinnati Enquirer—the first openly-Gay people in that major American city—I have faced many journalists, some skeptical, some neutral, some supportive. I’ve never had any of them demand an interview as if a maestro appointed them Chief Diva.

    Professional journalists use persuasion, establish trust, describe their project and goals; they promise fairness and accuracy, they don’t bully people. But I see by your blog post yesterday that you’re still ticked off, more than a year after I scratched you off my list because you didn’t deserve an interview.

    Enjoy that paper paycheck while it lasts; at some point Moonman will die and his son will yell, “Why are we throwing away $50 million a year on this loser property called The Washington Times?” From there you’ll be confined to flacking for Focus on the Family (Not Doctor Dobson’s Billion-Dollar Empire).++

    Comment by josh — August 14, 2008 @ 12:36 am | Reply

  46. […] UK Grants Asylum to Davis Mac-Iyalla; Now the Rest of the StoryDespite the attorney’s favorable recommendation, Davis chose not to pursue an asylum request, which was entirely within his rights. Richard Parkins, the Episcopal Church’s director of Migration Ministries, had counseled me not to try to … – […]

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  47. David Virtue now claims that you have proven that Davis Mac-Iyalla is “a known sexual predator.”

    With allies like you, who needs enemies?

    We’re still waiting for repayment of the plane ticket we bought for you.

    Comment by Tom — September 26, 2008 @ 7:00 pm | Reply

  48. Pity, for sure; revulsion, probably; but if they’ve heard the details contained in this story, you can rest quite confident that Williams and Akinola have no fear of Mac-Iyalla.

    Comment by Kate — September 30, 2008 @ 10:21 pm | Reply

  49. We are all aware of scandals in the church. The usual response of the church is to attempt to cover it up, but that simply exacerbates the problem. I can think of one scandal in southern California (that scandal was totally financial) in which the cover-up cost the church hundreds of thousands of dollars and didn’t even work. Even the bishop lied about the actual situation in his attempt to cover it up. Surely it would have been better to expose the scandal immediately rather than wait for the newspapers to do so.

    If a private person misbehaves, probably he should not be exposed. But when a very public person misbehaves in a way that could cause problems for the church, a good argument could be made in favor of exposing him before he does more damage.

    I can see both sides of this issue, i.e., whether the exploitive behavior of Davis should have been exposed.

    Others have raised the issue of what sexual behaviors are compatible with Christianity. Surely monogamy is best. However, considering the circumstances in which many of us find ourselves, expecting universal monogamy is unrealistic.

    As has been pointed out, the Hebrews did not receive the Ten Commandments ’til they had been freed from Egyptian slavery, presumably because as slaves, they would not have been in a position to keep the Commandments. Our situation, though not identical, is similar in some respects.

    For many gay men and women, the social barriers to finding a suitable life partner are greater than what they can be expected to overcome. Thus, I am inclined not to be too harsh with gay men and women who have encounters with multiple partners, provided that they treat those partners with consideration and respect which, unfortunately, too often they fail to do. We are, of course, striving to change social conditions and attitudes in such a way that in the future, it will be less difficult for gay men and women to find suitable life partners and live monogamous lives.

    Comment by Frank Eggers — May 26, 2009 @ 9:15 pm | Reply

  50. Hey u i am happy to see you here. U have Nice Blog Thank for sharing Article with me

    Comment by barstools — October 31, 2009 @ 2:36 am | Reply

  51. I was thrawlling the internet researching before a blog when I landed here. I do not Know Davis in person, although I have had some correspondence with him, nor do I know the writer in person. But I find this post completely disgusting.

    I think that matters such as this should be dealt with privately like some sensible people have commented already. I am gay, Nigerian, living in the UK, once a Christian (Anglican – and never would be again), but I think you should have recorded these evidences and bring your brother in Christ to other group of Christians (like your apostle Paul wrote) and thrash these things out. Because as your Bible says, “All have sinned and come short of the glory of (your) God”; so this public outing is rather a weapon that can be used against your own religion and struggle.

    I think that what the apostle Paul advised was that if a brother errs, he be brought to the elders… if he fails to ‘repent’, he may then be cast to the devil – and I would take it that such means denying/rejecting and dissociating from him. That makes a lot of sense and seems more convincing than you coming into the public to say things ‘against’ your brother and still say you believe him. Your testimony is questionable. It makes me doubt you as a person too. It would be better to withdraw this so more people do not see it. Or be clear and say, you have casted him to Satan (as St. Paul advices).

    I do not say these because I am a Nigerian, nor because I have exchanged some emails with Davis. Instead because I think it strikes a big blow to the whole LGBT freedom we are all fighting for. Each group and belief in this fight should show a sense of decorum, understanding and supporting by going back and sorting out any differences amongst themselves because again, as it says, ‘a house that stands against itself will fail’.

    I admire you all – writer and ‘exposed’ – for the sacrifices you lot have made and we want to look up to you guys to learn how to not just navigate the fight for our lives from the homophobes. But also on how to navigate amongst ourselves and help each other to build relationships as well as aiding the falling/failing. Once again, may I finish by saying; “There is none righteous, no, not one”.


    Comment by Godwyns Onwuchekwa — December 6, 2009 @ 1:14 pm | Reply

  52. He sounds like a spoiled, ridiculous and disgusting person. I’d have never let him into the country. I hope he gets deported back to Nigeria so that the Brits don’t have to waste any money feeding, housing and clothing him and helping him “score”. Let him cruise Abuja and Port Harcourt to his twisted heart’s content but the idea that anything like a god shines through this piece of sh*t is disgusting and ridiculous even for religious people.

    Comment by brad evans — November 5, 2010 @ 6:00 pm | Reply

  53. @ Number 12 I agree …sounds like the writer is a racist ….no worse than a homophobe !!

    Comment by Magna — April 23, 2011 @ 4:36 am | Reply

  54. @ #12 and #53

    We may not agree on whether it was reasonable for the writer to include some of what he said about Mr. Mac-Iyalla, but I see no proof that he is a racist. He may have simply reported, accurately, on Mr. Mac-Iyalla’s behavior, believing that people who associate with him should be warned. Every race has its scoundrels and to pretend otherwise makes no sense. Moreover, we are all a mixture of good, bad, and indifferent traits. In spite of any bad traits that Mr. Mac-Iyalla has, he has demonstrated courage and shown dedication to civil rights.

    In my opinion, the British government did the right thing by granting asylum to Mr. Mac-Iyalla. Assuming that reports on his behavior are accurate, that would be insufficient reason to withhold asylum.

    Comment by FRE — April 23, 2011 @ 11:49 am | Reply

  55. I’m glad Davis is in the UK. I’m also glad he’s not in the US.

    Comment by josh — April 23, 2011 @ 12:09 pm | Reply

  56. wedding invitations…

    […]UK Grants Asylum to Davis Mac-Iyalla; Now the Rest of the Story « Akinola, Repudiate Anti-Gay Violence[…]…

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  57. I find it so inspiring that am not the only
    human out there over the age of 20 who doesn’t know this kind of stuff! Time to learn *about all of it*.

    Comment by Darshana Natarajan — September 28, 2012 @ 5:54 am | Reply

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